Sure, if you press these “fans” on the reasons behind their bad behavior, few will say outright that jealousy fuels them. They won’t say that they believed they really had a shot with the celebrity or that they’re mad that the opportunity is no longer open to them. Instead, they claim that the potential partner isn’t good for the celebrity, that they’re using the celebrity, or that they’re ugly. They’re not willing to say that they think the celebrity should be with them or, in the case of a partner that’s a woman of color, a white woman they can layer themselves and their desires onto almost like a reader insert.
Jeanne and I catch up and compare notes about the rest of Loki, how our expectations were met, exceeded, or underwhelmed , and the current state of fandom discourse (which has managed to shift so hard in just a matter of months).
For the still in-progress transcript (now in final edits): I could not have gotten this out with the help of Hayden who handled the majority of the transcription and clarifications (for cultural references and Korean language since my audience is largely US-based). You can find them on:
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This is a trailer for the next season of Stitch Talks Ish… where I talk with y’all!
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Stitch Talks Ish… With Y’all: Season Two Trailer
I had a lot to say in 2020, and god did I say all of it. Last year, I did 10 episodes of Stitch Talks Ish that rounded out to about six hours of content and covered a wide range of experiences. I did a fairly large amount of Korean pop and hip hop content – I did two episodes for BTS’ Map of the Soul ON:E concert -, negative and positive fandom experiences, nostalgia, and sharp conversations about antiblackness in and out of fandom.
0:01 So, we’re on episode 8B of Stitch Talks Ish. This is the second part of my virtual concert experience, recapping the second night of BTS’s Map of the Soul ON:E performance. If you were unsure, this is the concert that effectively takes the place of the concert I was supposed to see in May.
0:27 Heartbreaking, isn’t it? We’ve all lost lots of opportunities across this pandemic and not getting to see a concert sucks, but it’s not the worst thing that could have happened, or that even has actually happened, to me and my family— so far.
0:43 But, it was another really great night of paying attention to BTS, and kind of checking out of what was going on in the world around me. So, if you’re ready for another post concert recap, here’s the recording I made right after the concert ended on the 12th. I believe, no, the 11th of October.
0:03 I think this is officially episode eight. The episode looking back at BTS’s releases from Dynamite, their Japanese release Map of the Soul: The Journey, and anything else that I didn’t cover in my last two BTS album related episodes – that’s still in the pipe works. I’m lazy, so – and busy – so it is taking me a little bit longer than I expected to get to that.
0:39 But one thing I have gotten to do in October is watch a BTS concert.
0:46 Like everyone around the world in 2020, all live music entertainment has kind of ground to a halt unless the artist you’re interested in is doing virtual, digital – on tact, I believe is the term many Korean artists are using – performances where it attempts to forge digital intimacy with a global audience.
1:14 So I’ve seen four concerts so far: Wonho’s kind of debut concert, his solo concert after exiting Monsta X-, A.C.E.’s virtual concert which is my second A.C.E. concert, because I saw them live in December 2019, and again two BTS concerts, both nights of the Map of the Soul ON:E concert.
I think people need to get comfortable with the idea of being uncomfortable. Unlearning racism isn’t easy. It’s not fun. If you go into it expecting that folks will hold your hand through it, you’re not going to get anywhere but frustrated.
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Hello, darlings!
So this is episode – officially, Episode Six- of Stitch Talks Ish. In the timeline, it’s Episode Seven because we had a bonus episode last month, I believe to celebrate the release of Yoongi’s second mixtape as Agust D, D-2. So, if you haven’t listened to that episode already please go check it out.
So this episode is called when “Black Lives Matter, but Black Opinions Don’t” because I have spent pretty much all of June and part of May realizing that for a lot of people, you know hashtagging, sharing petitions, and donating that is really all They think they have to do to be antiracist whether in fandom, in public, in their day to day lives, whatever.
They do the bare minimum, which is publicly perform antiracism.
They’ve bought the books. they own White Fragility. They share their few friends of colors’ GoFundMe ease and cashapps. They really do care about racism in the abstract.
And of course, they definitely don’t want Black people being killed because we’re Black, but they also don’t really care about us as people.
Hello, Darlings, and welcome to what will hopefully be a slightly shorter episode of Stitch Talks Ish.
So episode five is all about Laurell K. Hamilton, which I’m sure nobody actually wants, but everybody’s getting. Because despite the fact that I keep saying I’m done with her, her books are really bad, I’m not done with her, even though her books are really bad. That.
We are here because when I see her work, by the time I see it, it’s like, wow, she’s still like that, you know? And it’s not like I have anything else to do. And there are only so many Kpop, K-hip hop related pieces I’m going to be able to make without you guys just straight up showing up here and fighting me. So I have returned for the roast. I cannot promise that I will do anything else. But I have returned to roast Laurell K. Hamilton, which if you’re new to my site, to my social media, I’ve been doing this for a really long time— for me, like, five years minimum.
When I started my website, I started using her stuff as a regular feature. So I was doing The Great Big Anita Blake Reread, where I would reread her books and talk about like the good, the bad, and the just plain ugh, and I’d stopped because we started getting into the book that were just uncomfortable. And I don’t know if I’ll ever return to them—depends on how bored I get.
Those of y’all that have been around from the beginning of this blog know that I spent half of 2015 writing about James Bond for The Mary Sue. That was incredibly challenging and endlessly fun.
When Hugh and Tim hit me up for this opportunity to chat with them about one of my favorite Bond movies, of course, I had to do it. This was a ton of fun and I really loved every single moment of picking at this film, poking fun at it –
And of course, being incredibly obvious about my deep deep thirst for Halle Berry in this film and forever.
If you miss the good ‘ole days when pretty much all I did was Be Obnoxious About James Bond, grab yourself a nice cocktail (or a mediocre can of wine) and prepare yourself for An Experience as I Die Another Day on the James Bond Cocktail Hour!
Content Warnings: I talk explicitly about antiblack racism in fandom and white women weaponizing their femininity in service to it. I also briefly mention how part of this involves setting up a fear of John/that John will assault or is otherwise a threat to (largely white) women. I say the word “whore” once in describing a hypothetical username. I also swear a ton.
This is another grouchy episode because I am tired of this shit for real.
For folks I have blocked or that aren’t on twitter, I’ll be putting together a post collecting the tweets as soon as I can figure out how to do it well! Right now, what I have is… not up to my standards.
Hi, everyone, welcome to the second episode of Stitch Talks Ish.
It’s been about two and some change months since my first episode where I talked about like five minutes of The Tablo Podcast. And, and right now I’m back to complain again — not about Tablo this time.
If you follow me on Twitter, which you could if you wanted to, (and weren’t blocked,) I’ve been talking about the Star Wars fandom’s antiblackness from pretty much at the beginning of 2020. We’re only 12 days in. So I’m going to cover, as best as I can for podcasts, everything that’s happened, and about some really frustrating, and even worrying things that I’ve noticed about what’s been going on with the Reylo fandom, which is the ship name for Rey and Kylo Ren, and just overarching, transformative fandom.
So to start, I guess we have to begin from the beginning.
First of all, Ming Na Wen plays Melinda May, not May Parker. (May Parker, by the way, is Peter Parker’s alternate universe daughter…) I got my Marvel wires crossed because I was multi-tasking on something while I recorded this! My bad.
The title is a bit of a misrepresentation. I actually talk about a single moment in the podcast that kind of disrupted my ability to enjoy what I was listening to 100% (It dropped down to like… 89.78%, not gonna lie.) and then I talked about the casual antiblackness I’ve been noticing from popular Korean and Korean American bloggers in the past year as I’ve worked on my project and how often it comes up with media criticism.
At the end of the day, it’s not like I was expecting a single person on this podcast to talk about East Asian antiblackness or antiblackness in general. So I’m not actually trying to place my own burden of responsibility on them. But I feel like it was a bruise on an otherwise genuinely awesome episode because there was no need to zero in on Black Panther in the way they did, I feel like… it wasn’t a great moment and it was unnecessary on top of that.
Honestly, the episode is across the board good, but it’s like… that moment threw me off my groove so solidly that well… Yes, I made a 36 minute long podcast episode about a moment in someone else’s podcast.
Here’s the link to the episode of The Tablo Podcast I’m talking about!
From GoTranscript! [Editing is still in progress, but I wanted to post it.]
Welcome to the inaugural episode of Stitch Talks Ish.
This is a mini-podcast that I’ll be doing on my website public content that is available to everyone who subscribes or just shows up on my website and listens to my content. This first episode of Stitch Talks Ish is subtitled “Stitch talks about The Tablo Podcast episode on racism”. Really, it’s that I’m going to talk about a moment in the podcast, not the whole thing. I’m an infrequent listener of other podcasts because I do listen to them, I work in marketing, so there are times where it is literally just reasonable to pop my headphones in and put on a good podcast and just enjoy other people going about their lives.
Tablo of Epik High is a really good podcast. It’s really
entertaining, really solid guests, really good introspection. It’s a good
podcast listen to while you’re at work and I’ve been in and out, so a couple of
episodes behind, but the 15th episode came out today, it looks like. Eddie, Nam
and Eric Nam who is on his own podcast with Spotify for K-pop was on and they
were talking about racism and it was just honestly really funny because it was
like, “Well, we don’t want to talk about K-pop. We’re going to talk about
something light and fun. We’re going to talk about racism.” It was an
hour-long almost. It was about 54 minutes long according to Spotify on my end.
Eric was like, “Are you serious?”
Honestly, I really love that
they brought hilarious notes to this topic because obviously somebody who
writes and talks about racism in fandom and in media, my experiences with
dealing with racism as a queer black person in America, I find it really
fascinating and really helpful when other people talk about racism and bring up
how it shapes our lives and just put a little light into it, in the situation’s
we go through and the kind of poke fun at experiencing racism honestly, so it
is a good episode.
If you stop here, that’s all you need to know. If you keep going, honestly, there was- one and a half moments across the podcast that pinged me.
My appearance on Jinjja Cha was kind of destined to happen. I
adore Girl Davis immensely and want to be as cool as she is one day. And while
I haven’t had the chance to talk with April yet, we’re both longtime Rain and
Miyavi fans so like… we’re clearly also soulmates separated at
birth.
So, this was in the cards as a Thing That To Take Place.
Talking with Girl was an incredible experience in terms of
like… how it felt like just going out with a buddy and getting intense over
drinks. (One day, by the way, I’m going to have that experience with them. I
promise y’all that.)
Girl and I talked about a lot of different things across
our almost three-hour-long conversation. From my whole issue with that one
barbershop that was all over social media for a few days to that time I was
friends with a white supremacist in college a decade ago, nothing was really
off limits?
And I loved it.
The main question across our conversation was about finding
our thresholds as Black fans invested in these groups and this industry that
has repeatedly shown itself to be incredibly antiblack across the past twenty or
so years.
One of the things I’ve been thinking about – especially after reading and sharing Stan’d off by Claudia Williams – is how hard is is to unstan?
Even temporarily because you’re burnt out or frustrated by a member’s hood cosplay or upset at the way the performers/their companies never seem to notice antiblackness in their fandoms – but can leap to quash a dating rumor in a heartbeat.
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